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1850 points Kan Wall List
« on: August 13, 2016, 06:13:40 AM »
So did up this Kan Wall list. I have everything ready to play now apart for a few Kans.

Any thoughts on what I could tweek

Basically the Big Meks each go in a shoota boy squads and protect the Kans as best as possible. The Rokkit Mek goes in with the Slugga Boys to give an extra rokkit and also play the chalenge monkey roll so the PK can do its work.

Everything walks forwards shooting like crazy then assaults.

Nothing really fancy about it.

I was thinking of throwing in a squad of Burna Boyz so I had a few extra Meks but I didn't have the points.

Any ideas or tweaks?

1850 Kan Wall

HQ- Big Mek, KFF, Kill-Saw
115pts

HQ- Big Mek, KFF, Kill-Saw
115pts

HQ- Mek, Rokkit Launcha
20pts

T- Shoota Boyz (30 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
3 Boyz, Big Shoota's
26 Boyz, Shoota's
265pts

T- Shoota Boyz (30 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
3 Boyz, Big Shoota's
26 Boyz, Shoota's
265pts

T- Slugga Boyz (20 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
2 Boyz, Rokkit Launchas
17 Boyz, Slugga's & Choppa's
170pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

1850pts

MODEL LIST

2 Big Meks, KFF, Kill-Saw, 'Eavy Armour, Meks Tools
2 Nobz, Shoota, PK, Boss Pole
1x Nob, Slugga, PK, Boss Pole
1 Mek, Rokkit Launcha, Meks Tools
2x Boyz, Rokkit Launchas
6x Boyz, Big Shoota's
52 Boyz, Shoota's
17 Boyz, Slugga's & Choppa's
-TOTAL INFANTRY -83-

18 Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas & Kan Klaw
-TOTAL WALKERS -18-

-TOTAL MODELS IN ARMY -101-

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2016, 05:36:03 PM »
I did up a second list.

Which looks to be the most scary.

1850 Kan Wall (2 CAD)

HQ- Big Mek, KFF, Kill-Saw
115pts

HQ- Big Mek, KFF, Kill-Saw
115pts

T- Shoota Boyz (25 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
2 Boyz, Big Shoota's
22 Boyz, Shoota's
225pts

T- Shoota Boyz (25 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
2 Boyz, Big Shoota's
22 Boyz, Shoota's
225pts

T- Gretchin
1x Runtherd, Grabba Stikk, Slugga
10x Gretchin, Grot Blasta
35pts

T- Gretchin
1x Runtherd, Grabba Stikk, Slugga
10x Gretchin, Grot Blasta
35pts

T- Gretchin
1x Runtherd, Grabba Stikk, Slugga
10x Gretchin, Grot Blasta
35pts

HS- Deff Dread
2x Big Shootas, 2x Power Klaws
80pts

HS- Deff Dread
2x Big Shootas, 2x Power Klaws
80pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

1845pts

MODEL LIST

2 Big Meks, KFF, Kill-Saw, 'Eavy Armour
2 Nobz, Shoota, PK, Boss Pole
4x Boyz, Big Shoota's
44 Boyz, Shoota's
3x Runtherd, Grabba Stikk, Slugga
30x Gretchin, Grot Blasta
-TOTAL INFANTRY -85-

2x Deff Dreads, 2x Big Shoota's 2x PK
18 Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas & Kan Klaw
-TOTAL WALKERS -20-

-TOTAL MODELS IN ARMY -105-

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2016, 08:14:31 AM »
I may loot these for a game.

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2016, 08:41:14 AM »
So have been crunching numbers changing things up and thinking through how my battles will happen all in my head.

Some things that I am having issues with is my mobility.

Obviously ruining a Kan Wall list things are going to be quite clunky and slow. Taking bikes, trukks or speedy elements will just get blocked behind all of the clunky stuff amd denied what they really want to do amd that is go fast.

So I have been thinking that purhaps Storm Boyz or Deff Koptas might be the way to go. Both are fast and have good mobility and the best part is that they can just jump of over things that are in the way. I think either a few small squads of Koptas or one big blob of Storm Boyz might actually have a nice home in my list.

What is everyones thoughts on these two units in a Kan List?

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2016, 09:12:26 AM »
Well, 30 Storm boys is 310, with a PK Nob and boss pole. that's also 15 warbiker with PK Nob and boss pole. They're super vulnerable to shooting.(Storm boys)
Have you thought about maybe a Dakka Jet? I'd even looks at a few Deff Kopta mobs or wartrakks both can out flank.
Another option might be Da boss boys? (with the 3 big meks, warboss and weird boy.) One of the Big meks has to be your warlord but can get more units outflanking.
The Kan wall is a hard road, it never was fast, just easy to play.
I guess I'd ask what, aside from speed, do you feel is lacking and what are you willing to give up to get it? Kans cost a lot.giving up 3 kans only nets you 150 points give or take upgrades.

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 05:09:27 PM »
I think I could manage with 2 Shoota Boy squads. I also think the list could still work with only 2 Squads of Kans that are 6 models in each. But only if I run dual CAD and take a few Deff Dreads too.

I might have to play around a bit.

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2016, 06:40:07 PM »
Sounds promising.  Dual cads 4 troop. 4 small mobs or 4 of 20ish?
One thing I've been working on is shoota mobs. But not bigshootas or rockits. Kans shoot better any way. 1850 is a tight list. I can see 12 Kans. That leaves 300 points for a unit shift. which is my issue.  A lot will depend on what it's facing.

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2016, 07:01:54 PM »
Agreed.

This is what I have done up now. The Mek goes with the Slugga Boyz Mob. The Grots can start in reserve then come in turn 2+ to run onto a home field objective and just camp out. The Deffkoptas can fly around getting to the objectives where speed is of the essence.

I could always change up my list to have 3 squads of 1 Kopta to do the same job or I could throw in a 4th Dread. They will give up easy kill point but will keep fire off the my main force. I can always reserve them though if feel the need to or to prevent giving my opponent first blood.

Anyways I think I am getting this to where I want it to be.

Thoughts?

1850 Kan Wall

HQ- Big Mek, KFF, Kill-Saw, 'EavyArmour
119pts

HQ- Big Mek, KFF, Kill-Saw, 'EavyArmour
119pts

HQ- Mek, Rokkit Launcha
20pts

T- Shoota Boyz (20 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
2 Boyz, Big Shoota's
17 Boyz, Shoota's
190pts

T- Shoota Boyz (20 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
2 Boyz, Big Shoota's
17 Boyz, Shoota's
190pts

T- Slugga Boyz (22 Boyz)
1 Nob, PK, BP
2 Boyz, Rokkit Launchas
19 Boyz, Slugga's & Choppa's
182pts

T- Gretchin Mob
1x Runtherd
10x Gretchin
35pts

T- Gretchin Mob
1x Runtherd
10x Gretchin
35pts

FA- Deffkoptas
3x Deffkoptas, TL- Rocket Launchas
90pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

HS- Killa Kanz
6x Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas
300pts

HS- Deff Dread
2x Power Klawz, 2x Big Shoota's, Grot Riggas
90pts

HS- Deff Dread
2x Power Klawz, 2x Big Shoota's, Grot Riggas
90pts

HS- Deff Dread
2x Power Klawz, 2x Big Shoota's, Grot Riggas
90pts

1850pts

MODEL LIST

2 Big Meks, KFF, Kill-Saw, 'Eavy Armour
3 Nobz, PK, Boss Pole
4x Boyz, Big Shoota's
2 Rokkit Launchas
34 Boyz, Slugga's & Choppa's
19 Boyz, Slugga's & Choppa's
3x Deffkoptas, TL- Rocket Launchas
2 Runtherd, Slugga & Grabba Stikk
20 Gretchin, Grot Blasta
-TOTAL INFANTRY -90-

12 Killa Kanz, Rokkit Launchas & Kan Klaw
3 Deffdread's, 2x Power Klawz, 2x Big Shootas
-TOTAL WALKERS -15-

-TOTAL MODELS IN ARMY -105-

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Re: 1850 points Kan Wall List
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2016, 08:09:44 PM »
Looks good. The only change I'd make is turn the 3 Deffkopptas into 3 single Koptas to avoid loosing them all to shooting, also keeps them from running off.
I don't know if I like all the rockits in the list but I guess there's not a lot of other choices. It's a points efficient list I think. Although you could drop two klaws and bring in an extra HQ choice, a Pain boy for the slugga boys or a weird boy. Just a thought. Which army do you want to face down with this?