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Discussion: THE LIST / Chaos - Deathguard - 1500 pts
« Last post by Akaiyou on Today at 11:54:55 AM »
Battalion Detachment - 3cp
HQ 2-3

Typhus - 164/9
Smite + Miasma of Pestilence + Gift of Contagion

Malignant Plaguecaster - 110/6
Smite + Miasma of Pestilence + Plague Wind

Malignant Plaguecaster - 110/6
Smite + Miasma of Pestilence + Plague Wind

Troops 3-6

20 Poxwalkers - 120/6

20 Poxwalkers - 120/6

30 Cultists - 150/9

Elites 0-6

Noxious Blightbringer - 80/4
plasma pistol

Noxious Blightbringer - 80/4
plasma pistol

Fast Attack 0-3

Foetid Bloat-drone - 158/10
Plaguespitter x2
Plague probe

Foetid Bloat-drone - 158/10
Plaguespitter x2
Plague probe

Heavy Support 0-3
Defiler - 246/16
reaper autocannon
Defiler scourge

Total Roster = 1496
Power Level = 86
Hey y'all

I'm working on a 1,000 put list, and I'm trying to beef up my heavy support a bit.

I'm looking through the 8th edition codex for SMs, and I'm seeing the Skyspear Missile Launcher is like a twin lascannon (since it has a rule that the Skyspear can re-roll missed hit rolls), except with added range and an advantage against models that have the Fly special rule. So I guess I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Because it's supposed to be an anti-air weapon, is there a reason I couldn't multi-purpose it's role for my army? Or, can I pull a Germany in WW2, and use my anti-air as an excellent anti-vehicle weapon?

Thanks ^.^

Also, here's my list, if y'all want some context, or have any suggestions.

Captain w/ m-c boltgun and power sword
Primaris Leuitenant w/ m-c bolt rifle

intercessor squad (5)
Tactical squad (5) w/ heavy bolter, sarg w/ power sword and bolt pistol
Scouts (5) w/ sniper rifles

Heavy Support
Predator w/ twin lascannon, hunter-killer, storm bolted, and two side lascannons
Hunter w/ Skyspear, hunter-killer, and storm bolter

Vanguard Vet. Squad (5) w/ jump packs, plasma pistols, lightning claws, Sarah with power sword
General Discussion / Re: Bullgryn Tactics
« Last post by cadianshock on Today at 10:38:52 AM »
Thanks for the input. I have updated the article slightly to reflect your input and other reader's input!

Medikit is a good shout!
General Discussion / Re: Bullgryn Tactics
« Last post by Packetboy on Today at 06:22:37 AM »
Nice article. The psychic power state to add one to the saving throws, so yes the Primaris could be a nice addition to the bullgryns squad. Negating one point of AP for the slab shield (4+ against lascannon equivalent) and boosting the brute shield invul by 1 (3+ invul is nice) Plus the Primaris can also take the gaze of the emperor power and has a beam smite power for when the enemy pile in and get close to each other. nice.

So a Priest and a Primaris is the best add-on for the bullgryns. The command squad with a medkit is also great for the bullgryns since you can bring back a bullgryns from the dead on a 4+.
Discussion: Dark Angels / Re: Dark angels
« Last post by Sensenbob on Today at 01:02:48 AM »
I haven't checked the Dark brothers out too much but generally every army lost some special flavor in the Index.
All the non-special units are shared with SpaceMarines and unmodified.
DA still have their unique units which are comparably quite a lot and those still retain lots of special flavor and fun.

So i'd say you have to get used to it but there is definitely special flavor and fun!
Not a lot of cheese anymore though! So no 2+ rerollable saves :D
Discussion: Dark Angels / Darkshroud
« Last post by DA101 on June 27, 2017, 09:04:40 PM »
About the Darkshroud...

Does the -1 to hit buff stack? Meaning if I had two Darkshrouds would all affected be -2 to hit?

Im assuming it does, but I just wanted to be sure.

Having said that, if so, worth it?
Discussion: THE LIST / No love for the Necrons...
« Last post by DanielBonke on June 27, 2017, 04:41:02 PM »
I know Necrons became ridiculously expensive points wise and 8th edition has us suffering the same pains as 5th edition and early 6th when we had very little dedicated anti-vehicle.However we should not despair and I am sure fritz would agree with my next statement; the 8th edition necrons will have us playing just like we did back in 3rd and 4th edition only better. Swarming the field with our cheapest and probably most durable units in a fashion never before seen.With Warriors costing a measly 12 points per model and scarabs costing 13 points per model.My old Lock step, silver tide necrons will be coming out of retirement.
Here is my first list and I hope all you 3rd and 4th ed vets can appreciate the difference between our old 18 point warriors and now 12 point warriors and see how much more we have for this type of list.

Battalion:3 Command points
15x warriors-180-9
15x warriors-180-9
15x warriors-180-9
15x warriors-180-9
10x warriors-120-6
9x Scarabs-117-6
8x Scarabs-104-6
8x Scarabs-104-6
10x Flayed Ones-210-10


Classic Necron Silver Tide:) with the added mobility of a deceiver shift and possible turn one charge of flayed ones.
Discussion: Chaos Space Marines / Re: 8th ed I think we back
« Last post by WarpTonE on June 27, 2017, 04:31:20 PM »
I've only played a handful of games but so far it seems "to quote reese from frontline gaming" like the spam lists have become rock/paper/scissor lists; that's to say that they are hard-counters to other spam lists. So against the list they are strong against they wreck face but get punked by many other balanced lists as well as the spam hard-counters to their list. Balanced/all comer lists seem to be the best option over one-trick pony style lists.
Discussion: Chaos Space Marines / Re: 8th Death Guard legion question
« Last post by Eryx_UK on June 27, 2017, 03:11:10 PM »
Partly I think that units like terminators will get their own Death Guard versions in the new codex. DG have Deathshroud after all. But then the Death Guard were never ones to use bikes, assault marines and the like so I guess some of it is fluff reasons. Just bloody annoying after how nicely the legion turned out in Traitor Legions, not to mention that some of us board some of those units after that books release.
Discussion: Dark Angels / Dark angels
« Last post by Southendangel on June 27, 2017, 01:52:59 PM »
I fell in love with Dark angels in the last eddition and have not had a chance to check out the new index I wanted to know if they retained there flavor and fun for list building?
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