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Alawatakima, I missed that the first time through where you can overwatch as many times as you can until you're engaged. No more charge from 12" with 40 cultists to soak up the overwatch and then charge your marines without the chance to get shot. Very interesting.

Discussion: Orks / Re: Ork Dream Unit
« on: April 29, 2017, 04:34:41 PM »
Thank you for the inputs! Deffkoptas and Stompas look impressive and I'm seriously curious how many wounds they'll end up with once 8th drops.

Discussion: Orks / Ork Dream Unit
« on: April 28, 2017, 03:40:15 AM »
I've recently began collecting Orks and I'm loving the models. I appreciate the help I've received thus far from this forum, Quark at Mini Wargaming and Striking Scorpions 82 on YouTube as they've helped me "play test" models before I buy them and figure out what will work, and what will not.

From a purely fantasy prospective, I'm curious what is the single Ork unit you would purchase and field if cost weren't an issue (both points and monetary). With Games Workshop saying they are going to come out with rules for every model they have from both Forgeworld and the normal site, I see this as a prime time to nab one of those little used models because no one wants to buy the Imperial Armour books or some other obscure rule set.

I look forward to your comments!

Discussion: 40K Rumors / Re: Warhammer 40K 8th Edition Starter Set
« on: April 28, 2017, 03:32:38 AM »
What gets me even more excited is the prospect that it might be the new space marine models. I'm digging the size and the look of them.

Discussion: 40K Rumors / Re: Warhammer 40K 8th Edition Starter Set
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:14:38 AM »

If the big picture from the community page for Warhammer is any indication, I'd say it's Space Marines (probably Ultramarines) and Chaos Space Marines (***fingers crossed*** Death Guard/Nurgle).

The most recent video I watched eluded to it.

Hopefully this helps stir the pot a bit.

General Discussion / Re: 8th Ed. Are you ready?
« on: April 24, 2017, 07:45:32 AM »
I agree with you DeffBossGitKrusha about the codexes. As far as my ork miniatures, I'm well behind you in points and I'm waiting to see how 8th changes the table top portion of the hobby on where to move next. I intend to collect them anyway because I simply love the models.

General Discussion / Re: Views on Homegrown Characters
« on: April 24, 2017, 07:39:25 AM »
If you played Tigerius with an Imperial Fist army, I personally wouldn't bawk. I would like it tons more if you had a whole name and a background as well. I go even further by naming all of my sergeants in my Ultramarines army and Nobs for my Orks. But you're talking about friendly games where that's going to be allowed.

End of the day, it's your hobby. Do what you want with it and be creative. Tigerius is a cool looking model and in fact, mine is sitting atop a palanquin for my wifes Death Guard army.

Discussion: 40K Rumors / Re: (Potential) Changes to the Assault Phase
« on: April 20, 2017, 06:33:31 PM »
I'm looking forward to some sort of change as well.

I wish WH40k had a sort of pre-game talk show. With the anticipated/expected changes, you would think there would be some chatter about potential lists and stand-out units based on speculation.

Discussion: 40K Rumors / Re: (Potential) Changes to the Assault Phase
« on: April 18, 2017, 04:30:46 AM »

The Glacial Geek makes a logical argument for having the assaulter go first.

Couple of reasons why people don't like the idea in the response comments but there has to be some positive to it. The idea that you might get some sort of "First Strike" USR which either raises your initiative value on the first turn of combat or simply lets you strike first in the turn you make a charge.

Discussion: 40K Rumors / (Potential) Changes to the Assault Phase
« on: April 09, 2017, 08:09:11 AM »

In this video, he talks about what he confirms are changes. The assault phase was the one I thought was one of the coolest ideas for starters.

The gist of it if you don't want to look at the video is that if you declare the assault, you go first. So as an example, Orks would attack Space Marines first on the first turn of the assault. This includes your Nob with the power klaw.

I'm curious to hear thoughts about this. My thinking is it's a significant change that doesn't break the game. In 6th, the assault was nerfed so you couldn't charge out of reserves, hitting Space Wolves and drop pod armies pretty hard. The entire game shifted at that point to a shooting game and has been there ever since. As far as this change and not breaking the game, it's enough of a change to give assault armies an advantage in the phase they need it and not make shooting armies useless. Everyone still gets their overwatch, you still have to have enough bodies to survive to get into assault and you have to assault with enough to clear a large portion of your opponents guys before they hit you back.

I personally like the idea. I think it will balance the global meta a bit where either players are having to consider assault defense a little more or dust off their old Blood Angels/Orks models and try to dominate in close range combat.

Of course, this is purely speculation but I'm curious to hear other thoughts.

Lastly, as a disclaimer, I just recently popped open (finally!) my Ork Battle Force box that I purchased back in '14. I'm seriously looking forward to playing Orks if this change comes through!

I was so taken aback by the "Legion of the Damned" book that I've been thinking about it since last Christmas (2013).  I play for the narrative and got into the game because of the same.  Here's what I came up with:

Total Roster Cost: 1499

Combined Arms Detachment
   Captain + Relic Blade
   (3) Scout Bike Squad
   (5) Scout Squad, + Sniper Rifles
   (5) Tactical Squad + Veteran Sergeant
   Thunderfire Cannon
   (10) Legion of the Damned Flamer + Heavy Flamer
   (10) Legion of the Damned + Flamer + Multi-melta
   (10) Legion of the Damned + Meltagun + Multi-melta

Allied Detachment - Imperial Guard
   Company Command Squad
   Platoon Command Squad
   (4 squads, 10 troops each) Infantry Squad
I'm trying to stay as close as I can to the theme and maintain a 1500 point army.  I could eek out another point by adding a bolt pistol onto the Company Commander but he didn't have one (at least not that I could make out).

Feedback I'm looking for?  Am I completely off base with my trying to capture this?  I like the idea of a 90+ troop list facing off against everything in the current meta.  I don't stand a snow ball chance in hell but neither did the guys on Certus Minor.  Additionally, an actual list of the 5th Company and the supporting Imperial Guard would be massive amounts of points.  I wanted something I could start with and expand upon.

Thanks for comments in advance!


Discussion: THE LIST / Re: 1850 Salamander/Astra Militarum list
« on: November 28, 2014, 11:02:26 AM »

I like this:

"*Four drop pods encourage an opponent to castle up, but then a Wyvern, an orbital bombardment, and a master of ordnance discourage that. (Fritz might say that I'm trying to make my opponent reactive instead of active.)"

My opinion answers to your questions:

1)  I wouldn't look at it so much as mobility, as they take dedicated S7+ shooting to even think about beginning to kill your devastator squad.  With the rest of your list having vehicles, putting them in a rhino either makes them a low priority, or makes them something to sink shots into while ignoring the rest of your list.  Win/win for you.
2)  5pts for the option to be able to assault and threaten the AV13/14 out there, worth it.  Even if you don't use it, don't think your opponent isn't going to have a reaction do it.  Melta Bombs=avoid like the plague =)
3)  I'm not sure what I'd change straight away.  I'm not a huge fan of the deathwind launchers.  You've got the relentless orbital strike with the Chapter Master, the Wyvern and the Master of Ordnance.  Two more pie plates that can't be used until the 2nd turn they are in play (and can be avoided) are probably the easiest to pick out.
4)  My answer would be it depends.  Two gravs would give you 6 shots that you could have more options with.  An extra 6", wounds nasty MCs on their armour save, AP2.  I think you've got enough alpha melta strike to open up the grav as an option.

I like the list though.  The synergy I'm seeing just from the text would be neat to see played out on the table.



Discussion: THE LIST / Re: Necron 2K Anti-Huddle
« on: November 27, 2014, 05:16:05 PM »
GusMortis has excellent points.  I would think that a monolith might be in order as well.  The 6" range of the door is pretty nasty if it gets close enough.  Also, the Deathmarks grouped up with a cover ignoring Harbinger of Despair wounding on a 2+ might prove pretty effective.  Don't fear the deepstrike =)   Embrace it!

The Triarch stalker is another option.  Flood them with wounds by giving twin linked to anything that shoots at it's target.  All the stalker has to do is hit.  Even if it fails to wound, you're in there.

If it doesn't pan out, it will give you at least a turn to close range and something else to worry about.



Discussion: THE LIST / 1500 Chaos Space Marine List
« on: November 27, 2014, 05:02:42 PM »
Greetings again!

I wanted to post my wife's list to get opinions:

Daemon Prince of Khorne - Power Armour, Wings, The Black Mace - 265
5 Chaos Spawn of Nurgle - 180

10 Chaos Space Marines of Khorne - Bolt Pistols and CCWs, Rhino - 220

Dark Apostle of Khorne - Veteren of the Long War - 115
28 Chaos Cultists - 122

Heldrake - Baleflamer - 170

Chaos Vindicator - 125
Chaos Vindicator - 125

Forgefiend - 175

Points: 1497

Her strat consists of running the Daemon Prince with her Spawn and smashing whatever she touches.  Once in charge range, she will either take both in at a large group, or split the prince and spawn and engage two targets of opportunity.  The vindicators soften whichever targets she's lining up for her Dark Apostle/Cultists.  Her sniper ends up being her Forgefiend.  As much as I talk smack about how bad it is, she rolls so well for the damn thing it's hard to convince her otherwise =)  This isn't a subtle list.  She is the master of "Hulk Smash" in our house.

Any thoughts are welcome!



Discussion: THE LIST / 1500pts Raptors
« on: November 27, 2014, 04:42:25 PM »
Greetings!  I submit the following list for review:

Librarian - Stormbolter, Mastery Level 2 (Telepathy) - 95

Dreadnought - Drop pod - 135
Dreadnought - Drop pod - 135
Venerable Dreadnought - Drop Pod - 160

5-Man Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Combi Plasma, Melta Bombs, Rhino - 135
5-Man Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Combi Plasma, Melta Bombs, Rhino - 135
5-Man Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Combi Plasma, Melta Bombs, Rhino - 135
5-Man Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Combi Plasma, Melta Bombs, Rhino - 135
5-Man Tactical Squad - Plasma Gun, Combi Plasma, Melta Bombs, Rhino - 135

Stormraven Gunship - TL Lascannon, TL Multimelta - 200

Thunderfire Cannon - 100
Total:  1500

Small personal tweaks like the stormbolter on the librarian and the venerable on my third dread are fluff based.  I kit bashed my librarian and I have a cool Chaplain dreadnought that I play as a venerable.  I just plain like em =)




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