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Offline Synidus

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1850 Militarum Tempestus - to Knight or not to Knight
« on: October 30, 2014, 09:17:27 PM »
So let's get this ball rolling then shall we?

I'd like to start MT as my third army (already play RG and Eldar),  because it's rare, it's a challenge to play and the models are absolutely gorgeous.

I'm stuck between 2 lists though and would like to get your opinion on which would be better from a competitive stand point.

In both cases I'm going to use the ground assault formation as the primary detachment with my commissar as the warlord, mainly because of how cool a commissar is. The reason for the ground assault formation is that on the turn my boys disembark, they get twin-link without me having to expend an order on it.

Also, since both my RG and Eldar are using flyers, I'd like to go back to basics as it were. That being said, an imperial knight adds a lot to the list, giving me a tough model to be the central focus of my opponent's firepower, it is itself a major threat and it also has mean CC potential. Also, with the assassin and the knight, I can easily keep the ground formation in reserve to come on later.

However, keeping it purely scions, I'd be able to pick up a couple more squads with a CAD, giving me 2 more command squads (and crucially, 2 more orders), while also giving me arguably better anti-tank with Deepstriking Meltaguns. The problem is that it would be susceptible to unlucky reserves rolls. Furthermore, the Tauroxes would have to weather all of the anti-tank firepower by themselves and they aren't exactly durable.

Here are the lists:

List 1:

Ground Assault Formation:
Commissar Lord - Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Carapace Armour - 100
Command Squad - 5 Man - 4 Plasmaguns, Power Maul & Plasma Pistol - 185
Scions - 10 man - 2 Plasmaguns, Plasma Pistol - 175
Scions - 10 man - 2 Plasmaguns, Plasma Pistol - 175
Scions - 8 man - 2 Flamers, Power Maul, Plasma Pistol - 146
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Knight Errant - 370
Callidus - 145
Total: 1840
Model Counts: 40


List 2:

Ground Assault Formation:
Commissar Lord - Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Carapace Armour - 100
Command Squad - 5 Man - 4 Plasmaguns, Power Maul & Plasma Pistol - 185
Scions - 10 man - 2 Plasmaguns, Plasma Pistol - 175
Scions - 10 man - 2 Plasmaguns, Plasma Pistol - 175
Scions - 8 man - 2 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistol - 141
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Taurox Prime - TML, TLAutocannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launcher, CC, SL - 136
Command Squad - 5 Man - 4 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistol - 150
Command Squad - 5 Man - 4 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistol - 150
Scions - 5 man - 2 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistol - 105
Scions - 5 man - 2 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistol - 105
Total: 1850
Model Counts: 58

Which of the 2 lists would you suggest I go for?

Also, for the Tauroxes, should I keep them all with the ML? Or should I swap those one out for the Gatling Cannon or the Taurox battle Cannon?

Very many thanks in advance for your help gentlemen!

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Re: 1850 Militarum Tempestus - to Knight or not to Knight
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2014, 06:18:24 PM »
I probably would mix up both list lil bit. Remove all upg. like plasma pistol, power maul, extra armour etc. including commissar upg to lord, cuz its unnecessary expense. Then you get room for second command squad with meltas or even on inquisitor with skulls/augur array on taurox to be sure that meltas drop exactly where you want without scatter (and mishap if you take valkyrie) Drop Scions squad with flamers to minimum to gain some points. You should consider also to have at least one 10 men Scion squad with plasma in deep strike and have posibility to hit hard isolate units and/or secured area. It this case very helpful would be aegis with relay and in bonus you get cover for tauroxes/infantry
It should look like this:

Ground Assault Formation:
Commissar 
Command Squad - 5 Man - 4 Volley Gun
Scions - 10 man - 2 Plasmaguns,
Scions - 5 man - 2 Plasmaguns,
Scions - 5 man - 2 Flamers,
Taurox Prime -  TLAutocannon, TML
Taurox Prime -  TLAutocannon, TML
Taurox Prime -  TLAutocannon, Taurox Battle cannon,
Taurox Prime -  TLAutocannon, Taurox Battle cannon,
Command Squad - 5 Man - 4 Meltaguns
Scions - 10 man - 2 Plasmaguns
Scions - 5 man - 2 Meltaguns,
Scions - 5 man - 2 Meltaguns,
Mallaus Inquisitor in TDA with psycannon and 3 servo skulls
Knight Errant - 370
Aegis+Relay

Total: 1849

I hope this can help you


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