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Advice on 1850 list
« on: April 11, 2016, 05:31:27 PM »
Alright my fellow Overlords,

I have a potential tournament this Saturday and I was looking at playing Necrons. It is 1850 pts, but I am struggling on what to bring.

Naturally I am going to use the Decurion Formation:

Overlord-Warsythe, Phylactery, Res Orb, Phase Shifter (Veil of Darkness?)

10 Warriors w/Ghost Ark

10 Warriors w/ Ghost Ark

5 Immortals-Gauss Blasters

3 Tomb Blades- TL Gauss Blasters, Shieldvanes, Nebuloscope

Now that the basics are done here is my dilemma:

Do I bring: Lychguard-Warsythes(5 or 10 w/wo Night Sythe?

Annialation Barge?

More Warriors or another squd of Immortals?

Do I try Destroyers?

How about the Auxillary Formation......right now I only have enough to make either the Canoptek Harvest or the Judicator Battalion.

Thoughts and opinions and even a heathly discussion is appreciated.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 05:44:15 PM »
Couple things I did forget, it is a single elimination tourny.

Also, there are going to be Tau, Dark Angles, Vinilla Space Marines, Grey Knights, possibly Chaos, Orks, Eldar, and Space Wolves. Not sure if anyone else would be playing Necrons.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2016, 05:36:50 AM »
Phylactery is only good when running on a Command barge.
Since you are doing Decurion, not worth creating a separate CAD just to put Ann Barges or Destroyers in.
I like Lychguard but Triarch Praetorian tend to do better with their deepstrike, jump movement and AP2.

So, here is something for you to review and see if you can get any thoughts on:

1850pts

Reclamation Legion
Overlord [Phase Shifter, Resurrection Orb, The Veil of Darkness, Warscythe]

10x Immortal [Gauss Blaster]
Night Scythe

3x Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]
3x Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]

Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior
Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior

+ Auxiliary +

Canoptek Harvest
Canoptek Spyder
3x Canoptek Scarab
6x Canoptek Wraith [Whip Coils]

Judicator Battalion
5x Triarch Praetorian [Rod of Covenant]
5x Triarch Praetorian [Voidblade & Particle Caster]
Triarch Stalker [Heat Ray]

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 02:07:31 PM »
Phylactery is only good when running on a Command barge.
Since you are doing Decurion, not worth creating a separate CAD just to put Ann Barges or Destroyers in.
I like Lychguard but Triarch Praetorian tend to do better with their deepstrike, jump movement and AP2.

So, here is something for you to review and see if you can get any thoughts on:

1850pts

Reclamation Legion
Overlord [Phase Shifter, Resurrection Orb, The Veil of Darkness, Warscythe]

10x Immortal [Gauss Blaster]
Night Scythe

3x Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]
3x Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]

Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior
Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior

+ Auxiliary +

Canoptek Harvest
Canoptek Spyder
3x Canoptek Scarab
6x Canoptek Wraith [Whip Coils]

Judicator Battalion
5x Triarch Praetorian [Rod of Covenant]
5x Triarch Praetorian [Voidblade & Particle Caster]
Triarch Stalker [Heat Ray]

First off, Phylactery is still good. If you read the wording carefully, it says that the Chariot also gets the IWND special rule.

Secondly, I do like the build of the Decurion, however, I dont have enough Tomb Blades for two squads. The only problem with the Judicator Battalion is that both my Preatorions are built as Rod of Covenant and the tournament is trying to be as WYSIWYG as possible.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 03:15:45 PM »
Yeah, I said Phylactery is ONLY good on the CCB for the exact reason you stated. It is wasted 15 points on a lord on foot. By the time you have wounds on him, the rest of the squad is going to fail a moral check in close combat and get sweeping advanced...

Preatorions, that is the usual load out people like, but like you, I only have them with the Staffs. Can still run with staffs as it is the same cost.

Could drop the second TB and 5 Immortals and that should get you enough points for a small Lychguard sword/shield unit.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2016, 06:12:04 PM »
Yeah, I said Phylactery is ONLY good on the CCB for the exact reason you stated. It is wasted 15 points on a lord on foot. By the time you have wounds on him, the rest of the squad is going to fail a moral check in close combat and get sweeping advanced...

Preatorions, that is the usual load out people like, but like you, I only have them with the Staffs. Can still run with staffs as it is the same cost.

Could drop the second TB and 5 Immortals and that should get you enough points for a small Lychguard sword/shield unit.

Are Lychguard with swords and shield any good vs thier warsythe counterparts? All the Lychguard I have I built with the warsythe just for the armorbane alone.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2016, 06:56:40 PM »
With out the shield they tend to die very quickly.

Maybe it is just my meta though. I have to face an over abundance of Marines and their St8+, AP3+ and Armor saves of 2-3 so having the ability to survive the shooting phases and still cut through the marine armor once they get to a fight is great.

The other thing about my meta is speed. From 8-10 Drop pod armies to 4-5 Ork Trucks in my deployment turn two kind of skews my advice.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2016, 08:21:56 AM »
Although, that is where the Warsythes come in real handy with the Armorbane. Although, the Canoptek Harvest also does really well against that sort of thing.

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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2016, 01:55:12 PM »
If you want Scythe Guard you need a Cryptek with a chromometron. I'd use just rod Triarch, ap2 is rare enough in the codex as is.

Personally I like the Nightmare Shroud over Veil of Darkness. If you want to drop in with Lychguard and go hunting you need a full court with at least a cryptek with the solar staff so your unit doesn't get misted the turn they re-appear
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Re: Advice on 1850 list
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2016, 04:29:19 PM »
That is another one of my problems is that I dont have either enough models to do certain things or I am lacking some models altogether. I dont have any Lords(though I am thinking of proxing the Overlord that comes with the CCB as a Lord), Cryptek, special characters(I have one), Destroyer Lords, or another other aux formations other than the ones I mentioned in the initial post.