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A lack of fortifications on the table
« on: February 21, 2017, 07:24:15 AM »
I've noticed among my local group that we don't see fortifications being played any more. Last I saw was at the start of the year but before that it must have been at least six months or more since anyone played one. So I was pondering do you guys still play them or not? If not is it because they aren't considered worthwhile any more or more like myself, that points are too tight to fit them into a list?
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2017, 08:58:57 AM »
The Decurion-Style detachments don't have a slot for fortifications so i guess that's why less are brought now. In order to get one you need to run a CAD alongside your stuff, and most Decurions are expensive enogh points-wise on their own.

I used an Aegis in one of my lists but only at 2500pts. It was nice to have the quad-gun.(even shot down a Stormraven in one round) Generally i just don't buy one just because it doesn't fit the BloodAngels' style of moving forward and i can't find the extra 100 points :D
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2017, 10:55:47 AM »
I hadn't thought about detachments like that. I guess I sort of assumed that the way they are presented in Stronghold Assault (or whatever the book is called now) were formations.  :-[
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2017, 12:44:56 PM »
Locally I don't see them anymore. If I do, they are just counted as tabletop terrain- part of the table.

With my Grey Knights a defense line used to be an auto-include, not any more.

I think partially b/c the novelty has worn off, partly b/c the advantage you might have gotten by the state of the game when GW introduced them was something new, but has now settled down or points better spent. Partially also b/c many tournaments have rules on what you can bring with fortifications.

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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2017, 06:01:52 PM »
A Fortress of Redemption I can understand as it's just such a huge model. Better used for scenery rather than something you bring to the table.

I've stopped bothering because flyers aren't as scary any more so I don't see the need to bring an Aegis line like I used to. Anything else seems pointless when games are about mobility these days.
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 08:15:01 AM »
What about now under 8th? I haven't so far simply because of getting to grips with the new edition.
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 08:42:49 AM »
I've never seen someone waste points on a Fortification, and my LGS has everything from Bastions to a Fortress of Redemption available for us regulars to use.  So it's not like it's a purchase we don't want to make.  Most games are played with Bastions as mere terrain pieces.  But still, outside of test games or the old Malanthrope in the building trick of Nids, I haven't seen them in a long time.

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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 05:09:38 PM »
What made me ponder was looking at the Chaos Bastion. Previously I never bothered because you never got to fire more than one or two heavy bolters due to placement, but not all four can fire in the same direction. I might just give it a go.
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2017, 08:06:21 AM »
I simply never bothered to play them in any edition. I didn't know much about them and I thought that all they were was just expensive stationary cover with weapons. I do want to try them some day. It's just a matter of building a list with them I guess.
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Re: A lack of fortifications on the table
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 08:14:17 AM »
The only one that I have started using now is the vengeance weapon batteries with punisher gatling cannons when I expect to face horde or light infantry. Otherwise, yes, they are far too expensive for an immobile "unit".
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