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Space Marine Terminators Now Meh?
« on: January 17, 2018, 09:36:09 AM »
Fellow battle brothers, how are you playing terminators these days?

I used to be able to rely on that 2+ save against most units, and did my best to avoid any units that would force me to take an invul. save in previous editions.

Now in 8th with the AP, and the fact that most armies can throw up AP -1, my termies are effectively working as regular power armored dudes, which is still OK, but not for the points and unit size. Mass AP -1 seems to be everywhere, or is it my local meta spamming out Necrons, Chaos, and Space Marines.

I also feel for generic terminators shooty is working better since they are just good enough in the assault to compete with dedicated assault terminators, and being able to shoot is s huge boon.

Are centurions the new terminator of 8th?

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Re: Space Marine Terminators Now Meh?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2018, 01:25:03 PM »
Terminators are pretty much pants now. Mainly because armour save modifiers have severely hurt them plus the -1 to hit in melee with powerfists. They need a points reduction to make them worth fielding again.
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Re: Space Marine Terminators Now Meh?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 04:15:56 PM »
I can deal with the power fists, since they are still good in close combat and I'm always trying my best to not put my termies up against dedicated assault units or mobs that will over power me, but losing the 2+ save taking it to a 3+ or even a 4+ is hard.

On the Grey Knight side I'm struggling even a bit more with them- armor save vs. cost. It's really messing with my list.
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Re: Space Marine Terminators Now Meh?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 02:37:28 PM »
I remember when terminators had a 3+ save on 2d6 (w/ no invul)..  Inasmuch as the save modifiers in 8th are less extreme than in 2nd, I could be happy with a 4+ save on 2d6 (w no invul.). This gives a 73% chance to save against stuff like plasma, grav & lascannons, a 58% chance to save against melta, and a 92% chane to save against small arms.

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Re: Space Marine Terminators Now Meh?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 06:28:36 PM »
Less cost or more models, more models I feel like would not work as one would have to offset it with cheaper units- scouts? Regular space marines are still a bit pricey.
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