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Offline Atlantion

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"[...] A unit that Advances canít shoot
or charge later that turn." - excerpt from Core Rules in the 8th ed Rulebook.

So if I advance a unit, I can't shoot. But...

"A model with an Assault weapon can fire
it even if it Advanced earlier that turn. [...]" - Core Rules ^.

So my question about this is about grenades and pistols.
Both grenades and pistols can be used instead of other ranged weapons:

On Grenades:
"Each time a unit shoots, a single model in
the unit that is equipped with Grenades
may throw one instead of firing any
other weapon." - Core Rules ^.

On Pistols:
"[...] Each time a model equipped with both a
Pistol and another type of ranged weapon
(e.g. a Pistol and a Rapid Fire weapon)
shoots, it can either shoot with its
Pistol(s) or with all of its other weapons.
Choose which it will fire (Pistols or non-
Pistols) before making hit rolls." - Core Rules ^.

The question is:
* Can I make a shooting attack with a Grenade/Pistol weapon after advancing?
Can I do it if the model I am choosing is equipped with an Assault weapon (which can fire after advancing, and by the logic that I can use a Grenade/pistol instead of the Assault weapon)?
Can I use a Grenade if another model in the unit is making an attack with an Assault Weapon? With the logic that whenever a unit shoots, it can throw a grenade - and so, if it can shoot an Assault weapon, it could also shoot a grenade?

Reason for question:
I got shoot by a bunch of advancing Ork Boys armed with Choppas and Sluggas, which then charged...
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 06:45:38 PM by Atlantion »

Offline Tobas DA

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Re: Advancing, and certain weapon types, and weapon-type abilities.... 8th Ed.
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2018, 04:17:03 AM »
Hi,

from the core rules no to all.

Crucial for shooting after advancing is the weapons "Type" in its profile.

Example:
A Frag Grenade has the "Grenade" type keyword, a Bolt Pistol has the "Pistol" type keyword.

You can shoot the Bolt Pistol instead of a Melta Gun (assault typ weapon), but that does not change the Bolt Pistols profile from pistol to assault. Same with grenades.

You can not shoot pistols or throw grenades after advancing, unless there is an army special rule or stratagem.

As far as I know, the Slugga is a "Pistol" and can not be shot after advancing. The "Shoota" can, it is a "Assault" weapon.
 


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Re: Advancing, and certain weapon types, and weapon-type abilities.... 8th Ed.
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2018, 06:33:50 PM »
Ok, thanks a lot!  :D